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Pass rushers and college production


(Feb. 3)
 
https://boards.atlantafalcons.com/topic/4096034-pass-rushers-and-college-production/

 
There’s no getting around Falcons’ fans are battered wives when it comes to pass rushers. We all just expect every pass rusher we may draft will hurt us again just like the last one. Everyone has their own rules for how to avoid the next disaster. One of the biggest is people want players with college production. But how much production do you need? And when in their careers?  

So what can we learn from players of the past, especially when it comes to production? Unfortunately, there is no one size fits all. But there have definitely been lost and lots of players with questionable credentials who were still picked high and who went on to be good NFL players. 

I’ll stick to players who were top 15-20 picks. 

Nick Bosa, Ohio State

2016: 5
2017: 8.5
2018: 4 (injury)

None of this is super amazing but he was off to a hot start his junior season getting those 4 sacks in 3 games. Probably the most impressive was getting 5 sacks his true freshman season

Clelin Ferrell, Clemson

2015: 0
2016: 6
2017: 9.5
2018: 11.5

You really can’t argue his production at all. But here is where traits are more important and he didn't have the right traits. 

Josh Allen, Kentucky

2015: 0.5
2016: 7
2017: 7
2018: 17

Overall solid player who took it to the next level as a senior. It’s great for NFL teams when players like this come back for their senior seasons, but shows the potential value in juniors who come out early without amazing production and then reach this level. 

Rashan Gary, Michigan

2016: 0.5
2017: 5.5
2018: 3.5

Classic traits over production player.



Brian Burns, Florida State

2016: 8.5
2017: 4.5
2018: 10

Overall great production but probably most impressive is that true freshman season. Early production means a lot. 


Bradley Chubb, North Carolina State


2014: 0
2015: 5
2016: 10
2017: 10
Complete package.


Marcus Davenport, UTSA

2014: 2.5
2015: 4
2016: 6.5
2017: 8.5


Myles Garrett, Texas A&M

2014: 11
2015: 11.5
2016: 8.5

What more needs to be said? 


Solomon Thomas, Stanford

2015: 3.5
2016: 8.5

I honestly don’t know much about him he has been so bad.


Haason Reddick, Temple

2013: 0
2014: 2
2015: 5
2016: 9.5

Slow developing in college, slow developing in the NFL. Eventually, traits won. 


Joey Bosa, Ohio State

2013: 7.5
2014: 13.5
2015: 5

Some spectacular early production



Leonard Floyd, Georgia

2013: 6.5
2014: 6
2015: 4.5

Took a while to develop in the NFL. Not amazing but still going. 


Dante Fowler, Florida

2012: 2.5
2013: 3.5
2014: 8.5

Never dominant in college, didn’t have great traits, never dominant in the NFL but still going.


Vic Beasley, Clemson

2011: 0
2012: 8
2013: 13
2014: 9

I don't have to explain him.



Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina

2011: 8
2012: 13
2013: 3

Great early production. Encouraging case of a player who shut it down in college when he knew he was done yet still played hard in the NFL. 


Khalil Mack, Buffalo

2010: 4.5
2011: 5.5
2012: 8
2013: 10.5

Overall solid but not as much as you may expect playing against lower competiiton. 


Dion Jordan, Oregon

2009: 0
2010: 2
2011: 7.5
2012: 5

I thought at the time he was not who people thought he was. 


Ezekial Ansah, BYU

2010: 0
2011: 0
2012: 4.5

Here’s a case where traits over production won. 


Barkevious Mingo, LSU

2010: 2.5
2011: 8
2012: 4.5


Bruce Irvin, West Virginia

2010: 14
2011: 8.5

Must be mentioned he played JUCO before WVU so he was not straight out of high school doing this. 


Von Miller, Texas A&M

2007: 2
2008: 3.5
2009: 17
2010:10.5



Aldon Smith, Missouri

2009: 11.5
2010: 3


JJ Watt, Wisconsin

2009: 4.5
2010: 7


Most people probably know he started out at TE and then changed to DE. 


Robert Quinn, North Carolina


2008: 2
2009: 11


Ryan Kerrigan, Purdue

2007: 1
2008: 7
2009: 13
2010: 12.5

Fantastic college production. Nice pro career. 



Summerhill

Pass rushers and college production